Do you support this method of getting more people to have Healthcare?
Hillary’s plan isn’t as universal as it is "universally more availible"
Hillary’s American Health Choices Plan covers all Americans and improves health care by lowering costs and improving quality. It speaks to American values, American families, and American jobs.
It puts the consumer in the driver’s seat by offering more choices and lowering costs. If you’re one of the tens of million Americans without coverage or if you don’t like the coverage you have, you will have a choice of plans to pick from and that coverage will be affordable. Of course, if you like the plan you have, you can keep it.
* Affordable: Unlike the current health system where insurance premiums send people into bankruptcy, the plan provides tax credits for working families to help them cover their costs. The tax credits will ensure that working families never have to pay more than a limited percentage of their income for health care.
Would you support this?
Notice that it would still offer better Healthcare to harder working or rich people and it relies on you to buy it.
Brain, exactly we can’t prove anything like this anymore, hence the reason I dislike Obama. How will we afford this, lol, DOES THAT MATTER TO THE USA ANYMORE??? IT ISN’T LIKE THE GOV IS DEBT CONSCIOUS.
ibu, It works well for many Canadians I know as well as many people in Europe. Just because poor old Canada is bad doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try it at all.
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cantcu
28 Jan 2010
jonas s
28 Jan 2010
only if you foot the bill
Smash Liberalism
28 Jan 2010
No!
Leave it alone, for chrissakes!
Every time liberals go tinkering with something they break it
thor_torkinson
28 Jan 2010
It’s not health-care, it’s health insurance. More people would have insurance, but still wouldn’t be able to afford the co-pay.
Hillary’s plan lowers costs and improves quality? Extremely doubtfull. Saying it doesn’t make it so. Government health insurance will turn out like government retirement insurance did. There is absolutely no reason to believe otherwise, and you’re "touched" if you do.
MP US Army
28 Jan 2010
NO
The tax breaks you mention are part of the problem.
Under your plan their is even less free market competition to keep costs down then there is now.
If people only look at their co pay and not the cost of care the price will go up everywhere like it does now.
The problem is government interference in the market, more interference is not the answer.
mr doodles
28 Jan 2010
any plan that the government gets involved in is not going to be the best but instead of everyone screaming about the high cost and that the government should pay should get the facts straight and lobby their reps and senators to get the government out of the health care business. most but not all of the high price of health care can be laid at congress doorstep with over regulations that hospitals and doctors have to follow. the high cost of malpractice insurance that hospitals and doctors have to purchase just so some idiot can’t sue because someone gave them an aspirin or a sleeping pill because they said they didn’t want one. next time you go to the doctors or the hospital ask the nurse or person that checks you in just how much extra paperwork and the cost of the malpractice insurace drives up the cost? maybe if everyone asked questions to the right people they might not be so ready to scream that the govenment needs to get further involved but should ease up on the regs which would lower health care. mr doodles.
Moonchild
28 Jan 2010
No. I refuse to pay for other people’s healthcare. Why should I have to pay for theirs, or they for mine? Once we go down that road, people will be cited for obesity, smoking, and eating junk food, as these would be crimes against the state and its state-run health care system. No way. Be as fat as you want, live how you want, as long as I don’t have to foot the bill!
ibu guru
28 Jan 2010
If you believe this nonsense, you have not done your homework. Canada’s health system is a disaster. doctors are fleeing the country, and the Province of Ontario (despite formerly world renowned medical care in Toronto) now sends thousands of Canadians to the US for medical care each year, especially cardiac. Thousands more travel to the US and pay cash to get medical care – too long to wait.
Why does medical care in the US cost so much? I interviewed a number of hosptiatl administrators: one-fourth or more of every hospital bill is costs shifted from non-paying patients, almost exclusively illegal aliens and "medical tourists" (enter on tourist visas and go straight to hospital for care they know they need – then don’t pay). Another 1/4 is administrative costs and paperwork, predominently the costs of collectting insurance payments.
Over 1/2 million Americans go abroad for better health care at 18-25% of the US cost.
If medical care cost half as much as it does now, could you afford it? If your taxes were cut in half, could you afford necessary medical care?
Require non-citizens who claim inability to pay their medical bills contact their consulate for assistance in transferring their funds from their home country, and require tourists to prove health insurance to get a visa, and medical bills across the country would decline by hundreds of billions of dollars per year and no tax cost!
Karon
28 Jan 2010
I’m all for universal health care. Unfortunately what this doesn’t tell you is that under Hillary’s plan is she is forcing everyone to be covered. If you don’t want it for some reason and don’t have it then you will be fined. Obama’s health care plan is similar only he plans for the people that don’t want health care and he doesn’t fine them. Basically if you want health care you will be able to afford it. Simple as that.
you rang
28 Jan 2010
Just sneek into Mexico then sneek back claim you are an
illegal you will recieve free medical care and maybe even qualify for Social Security. You see we already have universal insurance we just don’t cover the working class in our own
country.
Brian I
28 Jan 2010
You know, maybe I am getting old, but I can’t help but read this and think, "prove it!" Tell me exactly how you plan on doing this! Show me exactly where a President could nip and trip away enough in the budget so that all the people of these United States could have "free" healthcare.
I agree that something needs to be done, but the answer is through innovation, competition, and private ownership; not through government involvment. How much do you look into your car insurance before you buy it? What about your cell plan? Your home mortgage? Did you just sign away and hope for the best or did you check it inside and out, knowing every detail? That is what you are asking me to do. Vote for Hillary on the hopes that she somehow pulls a magic rabbit out of her hat and produces a magical healthcare system that works, or, vote for someone who I think will do a better job, and take it upon myself to take care of my family.
So, I guess in the end, it comes down to a "um, no"!
My only issue with it is: Tax credits are fine, but for a low-income earner whose employer doesn’t provide health insurance, or a portion, for their cheap labor (as they want to keep the money) for a person paying Taxes on $10,000 of income, or $1,113 how is it going to help? That is equal to 2 trips to the ER or or 1 CAT scan! How is a Tax credit going to help them?
The rich don’t have an issue with health insurance as they could pay it in cash and it would not make a dent in their income!
I don’t know why the rich and business isn’t all for the plan as I assume many would be throwing people off of health coverage for the low income to pick up! The only reason they don’t is the BILLIONS they make every year of off screwing the poor. The poor can’t pay for health insurance while the CEO of Anthem is making $2 million a year plus a $22 million bonus, and all their stockholders make money by denying benefits who do have health coverage!
I don’t see any current package really helping the poor. It helps the rich more!